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  • Can we omit the preposition in this collocation?

    - This question was related only to the expression - 5.Повернуть ручку НА 90 градусов - 5. turn the knob through 90 degrees.


    I didn't propose to omit prepositions in collocations: 1. walk ( go ) across the road
    3.to deposit money with a bank.

    Thank you for your time!

  • Can we omit the preposition in this collocation?

    - This question was related only to the expression - 5.Повернуть ручку НА 90 градусов - 5. turn the knob through 90 degrees.

    ---I do not think that is possible. Why this question?

  • Only for the sake of interest

    1. http://www.hamiltonform.com/content/literature/products/magnets_onoff.pdf
    MAGNETS AND MAGNETIC SIDE RAIL SYSTEMS
    Convenient, Easy Operation.
    Simply turn the knob 90 degrees to turn it OFF and
    another 90 degrees to turn it ON. No special tools are
    required to turn the magnet on or off.

    2. http://www.wedophones.com/Manuals/Honda/HONDA%202006-2007%20Ridgeline%20Tonneau%20cover%20User%27s%20Information.pdf
    • Open the tailgate and turn the knobs on the right and left sides of the rear tonneau cover.
    • Open the rear tonneau cover gently.
    • KNOB. Turn 90 degrees to release.
    3. https://www.carid.com/images/lokar/items/pdf/shifter-knob-removal-instruction.pdf
    General Installation Notes
    …remove the 1/4"-20 set screw using a 1/8" Allen wrench. Depress the release button and
    hold it down. Rotate the knob 90 degrees (1/4 turn) counter, so that the set screw hole is at the 3:00 position.
    4. https://www.all4shooters.com/en/Shooting/pistols/B&T-VP9-9mm-single-shot-repeater-silenced-pistol/?p=1
    A rear round knob dubs as the cocking handle for the VP9: after each round is fired, the user will have to turn it 90-degrees clockwise to unlock the bolt, pull it all the way rearwards until the bolt locks open, then push it down all the way again and turn the knob 90-degrees...

  • That is perferctly all right. But whatever you are citing is American, Japanese and Swiss English. That kind of English is NOT a good example to follow, I think. Anyway, I would never do it. I would prefer to stick to English which is TO TURN A DOOR KNOB THROUGH 90 degrees.

    Here is another example of American English They can say " I can't do it now. I will do it Monday". We do not see the usual preposition ON before MONDAY in the sentence.
    Would you like to say as they do or would you like to keep to the usual and established collocation ON MONDAY?

  • Without any doubt I would say On Monday. I fully agree that we should adhere to the norms of the literary language. Thanks for an interesting discussion.

  • I return my thanks to you.